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Post by Torkin on Dec 27, 2007 11:44:17 GMT -5
I still dont have a solid tecnique so when I learn a lick I play it for maybe 30 mins (depends on the lick actually, sometimes I start directly with met) then I start around 70 if it is difficult and maybe increase to 80. But then I stop and try to "nail the lick into my fingers". I play it for a long time slowly and really try to get the muscle memory. Then if I do that, I'll be able to play a lick at around 150-60 no prob.
I add speed in 2 bpm increments. More is not recommended. Basically I go Troy Stetina method: when you reach comfortable speed add 2 bpms, smooth it out, the go down one, then add two and so on... It is very good method, since you actually "grow" speed faster. But imo all that matters is to get it 150% down at 80-90 bpms.
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Post by desolatetear on Apr 25, 2008 11:31:19 GMT -5
I was always told to practice everything super slow at first. Because your muscle memory records everything exactly like you play it. So if you play it sloppy at slow speeds your going to play it the same way when your trying to shred. Which is not what you want.
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Post by thenotshredder on Apr 25, 2008 17:18:03 GMT -5
Yes, the problem being that you don't actually play it exactly the same slow as you do fast. And this is completely irrelevant to the topic of the thread anyway.
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Post by desolatetear on Apr 25, 2008 19:52:13 GMT -5
If you read what ppl have wrote its not irrelevant to what they were talking about. But thanks for being the forum dick.
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Post by Torkin on Apr 25, 2008 20:24:02 GMT -5
thenotshredder is a bit harsh sometimes yea, but sorry who are you? Do i know you? And what right do you have to go bashing people on this forum?
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Post by thenotshredder on Apr 26, 2008 0:02:51 GMT -5
I have no disguise here, my wee one.
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Post by schweinhund on Apr 26, 2008 21:33:21 GMT -5
Ok... to turn this thread back into the right direction:
How much should one practice with clean tone?
Answer: 95-100% of the time.
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Post by pcsmall on Apr 26, 2008 23:38:32 GMT -5
even better: doing so with a single-coil guitar if one is available.
i practice with my tele a lot at home, which when distortion is added (unless it's the rectifier setting on my cube) is pretty much clean all the time...and the mistakes cut right through all the crap. I tend to try and get stuff down w/ clean tone and make sure my dynamics in the technique are right, and then i slap some distortion on it and clean it up.
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Post by thenotshredder on Apr 27, 2008 1:37:51 GMT -5
I'm pretty sure it's "as much as you feel like." I practice with clean tone to make sure my synchronization is going okay. Other than that... eh.
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Post by Torkin on Apr 27, 2008 5:22:36 GMT -5
Ok just IMO but I hear my mistakes better with distortion
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Post by johnny on Apr 27, 2008 23:23:41 GMT -5
As for the clean tone question, simple: as much as works for you! It's good to practice with a clean tone--and even better to practice unlugged--at least once in a while, because doing so lets you hear your overall dynamics, any discrepancies in your right/left hand synchronization--and, if you're practicing legato, playing unplugged will strengthen your fret hand because you have to work more to hear the notes. But that's personal choice. Some people sound fucking AMAZING without ever unplugging. Some people play unplugged for most of their practicing. (EVH is one of the latter, ftr.) As for the metronome question: again, it depends (notice a pattern yet? ). Personally I like to practice a variety of licks that accomplish the same thing--just find something I have difficulty with and create exercises to overcome it--be it a particular string cross with the pick hand, licks with a certain fingering pattern, various gallop riffs, etc. Whatever it is, by having the same technique and the same specific problematic patterns worked into everything I'm practicing during a given session, I get synergy--everything working together for the same result. So when I burn out on one lick or riff or exercise, I can move on to the next one and get the same (or similar) benefit from it while still increasing my speed and clarity. Later, come back to the previous lick or whatever, and find it much improved. And in cases where I don't feel like working specifically on a given technique anymore that day--just play somethin' else. You won't backtrack too much in a single day.
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Post by johnny on Apr 27, 2008 23:27:08 GMT -5
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Post by thenotshredder on Apr 28, 2008 9:39:44 GMT -5
I'm pretty well aware of most of that stuff, Johnny, but thanks, I appreciate it. I've been using a metronome since I was 14.
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Post by schweinhund on Apr 28, 2008 18:47:01 GMT -5
But that's personal choice. Some people sound fucking AMAZING without ever unplugging. Some people play unplugged for most of their practicing. (EVH is one of the latter, ftr.) Practicing unplugged is tru3. I can't even plug into the amp I got here at home so everything I practice is unplugged. And I gotta say, the clean tone gets pretty tight once you've played alot unplugged (and the slapping becomes ultimate!). Unplugged is good for funk. Metalwise I don't spot any difference..
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Post by Torkin on Apr 30, 2008 9:02:28 GMT -5
Best way ever to practice alt picking is getting a peavey xxl combo, a boss metal zone, and putting the distortion on 10 and max on mz. !!!!
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