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Post by painkiller on Apr 8, 2008 1:45:42 GMT -5
When I try to wrist pick I notice that my forearm seems to waggle back and fourth almost like a counterweight. It doesn't remain still like it should. This gets really annoying at higher tempos because it screws up my wrist motion and prevents me from being both fast and precise.
Does anyone else have this problem?
How is it that I see people tremolo picking with a very quiet forearm, just wrist motion ala Paul Gilbert, Theodore Ziras etc?
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Post by thenotshredder on Apr 8, 2008 6:56:32 GMT -5
They're anchoring. But you shouldn't. Hold your guitar in classical position, and look at the way Rusty Cooley picks. He's the fastest that I can think of off of the top of my head (save, perhaps, for Shawn Lane), and his forearm waggles a bit when he picks. Don't worry about it.
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Post by Joel Wanasek on Apr 8, 2008 9:15:17 GMT -5
I don't know if you are doing this, but rest your picking hand on your bridge as to palm mute everything but maybe the b and high e strings. Try not to anchor your pinkie on teh body or anything like that. that may help ground you.
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Post by painkiller on Apr 8, 2008 18:17:54 GMT -5
I've sort of been resting my palm on the strings because I have very noisy pickups (or noisy distortion) and if I don't actively dampen the low E and A strings, they make noise even if I'm not playing on them from sympathetic vibrations.
Anyway, why do you say that anchoring is bad thenotshredder? Interesting observation about Rusty, I always thought he was an elbow picker but maybe it's just extraneous wrist motion.
Thanks Joel, yeah I don't anchor my pinky cause for me it promotes a bad picking motion so I avoid it.
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Post by painkiller on Apr 8, 2008 18:36:16 GMT -5
I just watched your video Joel and your motion is all wrist, no forearm movement. How did you train your arm to do that?
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Post by schweinhund on Apr 22, 2008 18:45:11 GMT -5
I just watched your video Joel and your motion is all wrist, no forearm movement. How did you train your arm to do that? I'm gonna take the liberty to answer on behalf of Joel.. By not moving the forearm Just stay loose and relaxed. The second you tense up your forearm will start moving with your hand and then it's all fucked up elbow-picking. Loosy-goosy = wrist picking = good
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Post by pcsmall on Apr 22, 2008 20:11:30 GMT -5
yeah it's all basically about staying relaxed. assuming you'd be using a metronome, you should try practicing at a speed where you just barely feel a little bit of tension (a VERY minute amount...as little as possible) and work at that level until you push past it and can do that speed relaxed, and just keep upping it.
don't worry - if you do it right, you'll be straight wrist picking no problem.
if you do it wrong, you'll end up playing like vernon reid or vic wooten's brother :/
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Post by SHRED FAN on Apr 23, 2008 2:30:24 GMT -5
I read in Joel's alternate picking master class that you can screw up your arm if you pick with it. Does anyone know anything more about this? Also, why does everyone hate elbow picking? peace
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Post by johnny on Apr 23, 2008 3:21:30 GMT -5
One word, bud: Tennis elbow.
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Post by pcsmall on Apr 23, 2008 9:17:41 GMT -5
elbow picking is sloppy and rarely on time.
once again - vernon reid
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Post by SHRED FAN on Apr 23, 2008 22:50:41 GMT -5
Ive changed my technique to be more from the wrist but my arm still moves with it a bit. Is this still bad for me, cause i don't want tennis elbow
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Post by pcsmall on Apr 23, 2008 23:30:34 GMT -5
well i think the question is whether your arm is moving b/c you are making it move in your picking motion, or if it's being caused by wrist motion - meaning you're picking with your wrist yet your forearm is still moving, which would probably mean that you just need to work on lessening the amount of tension in your muscles.
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Post by Torkin on Apr 24, 2008 6:15:33 GMT -5
Classical solution: learn to jerk off without moving your forearm
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Post by pcsmall on Apr 24, 2008 9:13:39 GMT -5
you know torkin, i was expecting schwein to be the first to offer that answer
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Post by Torkin on Apr 24, 2008 9:50:48 GMT -5
Well now you see what effect staying in Iceland has on a man
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