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Post by Stefvorcide on May 7, 2007 22:21:19 GMT -5
OKay, first, open up Powertab or Guitar pro.. make up your shizzles. hit "print screen" then open Paint. hit "paste " keep the notation (remove window shit) upload it to photobucket.com
then [ I M G ] LINK.jpeg [ / I M G ]
with no spaces at all (cant write it, cause it wont display as the baord will be looking for a nonexistant link)
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 8, 2007 2:30:57 GMT -5
Sweet. This will also help me to post my own stuff for my friends. Thanks!
I'll learn how to use powertab tonight, then probably be able to post a complete rhythm guide tomorrow night. Thanks again Emp!
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 9, 2007 0:46:46 GMT -5
Hmm...for some reason, Paint is not letting me paste from Powertab.
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 9, 2007 2:05:35 GMT -5
Well, got that part figured out. And now IG isn't letting me post the pic.
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 9, 2007 2:15:36 GMT -5
Well, I finally got it. Took me like an hour to figure it out... Right now it's just the absolute basics of rhythm, so you can get an idea of what I was trying to explain. (No visuals makes it difficult to explain.) To answer your initial question as simply as possible, each click of the metronome is one beat. Notice how the time values of the notes decrease as the number of notes increases. The second staff subdivides the beat into downbeats and upbeats. The beat/counting pattern is shown so you can count out your rhythms (in case you're a beginner.) It ain't pretty, but it's the best I can do until I have a chance to practice this tab-making/ image posting thing some more.
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Post by metallatem on May 9, 2007 21:37:40 GMT -5
All thanks and gratitudes for your replies. I do have a basic understanding of time signatures, but I was not sure if each click was for each beat or just the kick drum or if it was the snare. (...boom-bap-boom-bap...4/4) you know since you tap(your foot) only twice....which would be the kick on one and three in your bare bones rock 4/4. Is that correct am I makin sense here?
However you answers were much appreciated and answered some secondary questions. Thanks Emp and Jazz for the diagrams and Pat for the count formats, although 'one triplet and triplet' sounds so goofy...but I can see the count.
Dr.Matt hit it pretty much on the head and I gather from your collective replies that when someone is talking about picking speed they're really talkin about jammin 1/16 th notes in between clicks at a certain tempo. Which is that they're playing 4 notes per click at ,say, 120 clicks per minute.
So... if my metronome is clickin away @ 120 bpm and I am alternate picking 1/16th notes, then at the end of one minute I've just completed 30 measures and played 480 notes.......? Sabe? Is that correct? So instead of sayin I can play 480 notes per minute we say my picking speed is 1/16th notes@ 120bpm or just 120bpm . Also does this measurement apply only for streaming 1/16th notes or does it apply to any piece of music...if it does then your playing less or more notes @ that tempo right? If it doesn't well then it doesn't.
I hope you understand what I'm asking...it's more about defining speed really.
Also do you guys really count 'one e and a two e...etc' while your playing? How do you do that while playin lead parts at speed? I mean with beat blasting two footed kicks and dotted quarter notes and all in the mix.. I mean I have trouble just finding 'one' again in most metal music and prog music. Am I missing something? How fast can somebody think..'one e and a two e and a three e and a four e' ?
Thanks once again for your time.
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Post by mattjem7vwh on May 10, 2007 2:01:36 GMT -5
with regards to how to count at speed.... some players, including myself will practice with an emphasis on picking a certain note.
say your playing sixteenths cromaticaly, 12th 13th 14th 15th over and over....
when you hit the 12 (or 1 of the four notes in your sixteenth pattern) you can emphasise this note with a harder pick, therefore making a clicking sound off the string or making the note louder than the other three.
there fore you only have to count once for every four notes. much easier at speed.
if thats still too fast, break your pattern up some more.
emphasise a single note every 8 notes (make it louder or give is some more click)
if you know how many notes are in your pattern or lick, you can divide it appropiatly into sections.
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Post by mattjem7vwh on May 10, 2007 2:03:37 GMT -5
p.s if this doesnt make sense ill post a quick vid of DEMONstration.
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 10, 2007 2:20:18 GMT -5
I'll start with your last question first. I don't actually count "1 e & a, 2 e & a, etc" at tempo. I only actually count when learning something either extremely difficult or extremely foreign to my ears and abilities, to help myself get an understanding of the rhytmic patterns I'm playing. It's fine to count during personal practice time, but when playing at full speed or at a show or something, I tend to forget about that and just go by feel. And when playing at tempo, actually counting is usually more of a burden than a help anyway. At that point, if any "counting" is going on, it's usually just a series of mental "pitches" to help maintain the downbeat.
As for the metronome, 1 "click" is one beat. Silence equals an upbeat, or "and." The one I use (Metrotuner) also has a few cool features that allow me to set it for specific eighth or sixteenth patterns, or to accent any number of beats up to seven. (Don't know if that's a typical feature or not.)
Your note per minute pattern only really "works" if your playing a steady stream of sixteenths. If you're playing triplets, you'd obviously have fewer notes per beat, and thirty-seconds would give you twice the number of notes per beat, then there's always sextuplets and quintuplets, etc. As soon as you get away from anything purely mechanical in nature, it's going to be eskew, especially when you have five NPB followed by six NPB, then three NPB, or whatever the realistic note pattern is that you're playing. Your pattern will be fine for a rough approximation, but I don't suggest really relying on it for the purposes of calculating speed.
The truth of speed is that there will always be certain things you can play better and more easily than other things. (Which I think is as it should be -- would get kinda boring otherwise!) Your best licks may take you up 200+ BPM, but your worst (if it's something you really struggle with) might drag you all the way down to 100 BPM. So your "best speed" is really only your best on those licks you're best with.
I hope this makes sense, and I hope this helps at least some.
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Post by metallatem on May 11, 2007 20:35:28 GMT -5
'p.s if this doesnt make sense ill post a quick vid of DEMONstration.'
Makes total sense Dr. Matt.
'just a series of mental "pitches" to help maintain the downbeat.'
But this don't, Jazziii. I have no idea what this would mean.
Everything else I get. I do need a metronome that's not on the PC. I'll check out the Metrotuner. I practice/play/mostly goof off 95% of the time without booting the PC,although I should for recording my musings and the metronome. It's just a hassle because it's in the living room and no one wants to hear my ****shit. So a stand- alone metronome would be cool. And so would a loop recorder and a new amp and some new pick-ups, maybe another quitar to leave in drop B so I don't have to hurl cursings at F. Rose...
You think the PODXT would've came with a metronome button . It's ok if you tell me there is one, in fact PLEASE tell me there is one, I just don't know where it is. There is a tempo feature to time effects but I don't know about a click. It would be good since I use the headphones quite a bit when practicing.
Thanks again.
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 11, 2007 20:53:42 GMT -5
'just a series of mental "pitches" to help maintain the downbeat.' But this don't, Jazziii. I have no idea what this would mean. Yeah, I wasn't too clear on that, sorry. It's basically just like I'm hearing "clicks" in my head to keep track of the downbeat. I use that method when I'm not using a metronome or drum loop. If you've got any type of audible pulse, it's not neccessary. Better?
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 11, 2007 21:04:16 GMT -5
P.S.~ Just checked line6.com -- the POD does not have a metronome.
Also, when you get a metronome, I strongly reccommend getting one with a wood block tone. The ones that beep are very annoying and distracting!
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Post by metallatem on May 11, 2007 21:04:35 GMT -5
yes that's grand...btw I usem the JazzIIIs also , very stable and easy to grip...although the tone's a bit duller it seems.
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Post by jazziiiguy on May 11, 2007 21:14:41 GMT -5
Jazz 3s are awesome! I played with one for an hour, and my regular JD 1 milimeter was too wide and too flimzy after that.
By the way, a lot of the tone of the Jazz 3 is in the way you hold the pick. If you angle it slightly, you get a better sound. Just play around with different angles, see if you find something you like.
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Post by mattjem7vwh on May 11, 2007 21:54:28 GMT -5
ahaha! pick wars!!!!!
Paul Gilbert super chunky for the win!
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