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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 1, 2007 10:40:05 GMT -5
Hey joel, just wanted to know, let's say someone uses those mics to record heavily distorted but focused and tight (versus loose) guitar tones..
1.SM57 2. audio technica ATM250DE 3. a 3 feet mic from the cab room. -> which one?
What do ya think of that setup?? let's say the pre/converters/console other stuff is good quality
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Post by Joel Wanasek on Dec 1, 2007 11:11:57 GMT -5
My 2 fav guitar cab mics are a 57 and an audix i5. If you are looking for tight, right up against the cab. No 3 feet back mic is necessary. Any time you add another mic, you deal with annoying phase issues between them.
The main thing to do when placing a mic is to really pay attention to placement. Finding that balance between high sizzle and having mids that are focused (not under water sounding) is annoying but worth it. I tend to get a mic set up just perfect and then leave it forever. lol saves time. ;D I think a lot of people get frusterated when they can't find the right spot and try using another mic instead. Just sweep that mic, record it, find a well recorded soloed guitar and refference it with your sound. It is all about balancing frequencies and finding the best spot on your speaker (you need to figure out what speaker sounds best too on your cab).
p.s. if you have to go 3 feet back, then I would say find a nice condensor or ribbon mic.
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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 1, 2007 11:20:29 GMT -5
Alright, thanks for the wise (AND FAST !! ) advices, i'll check that out w/ concerned people.
We already know about mic placement/speakers/phases issue. That 3 feet mic was just to give a thicker guitar tone, roughly 2/3 volume from the others (if that makes any sence) it was more to have a trustable external opinion.
if you want to add anything that might help us, feel free.
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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 1, 2007 11:31:41 GMT -5
Btw, when you said "underwater mids" I had that tone in my head (pretty much a 5150 without any mids), and yeah it's annoying, just made me laugh ;p
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Post by Joel Wanasek on Dec 1, 2007 14:25:16 GMT -5
To make it thicker, lower your gain and record more tracks.
I always try to find a spot where it sounds like the amp does in the room coming back through the control room speakers.
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Post by logansc on Dec 5, 2007 23:19:20 GMT -5
I use a 57 with an sennheiser e906 now. Loads better than what I used to have, but then again I can actually have decently somewhat record myself now too. 57's are too presencey too get a good thick tone by themselves I have found. i5's and beta 57's are also alternatives but i've never tried them. I know you weren't asking my opinion, but I'd thought i'd inform you of my changes since I asked you guys about mics and a lot of stuff awhile ago when I joined.
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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 5, 2007 23:27:08 GMT -5
yeah its good, because its an overlocked aspect of guitar (and music in general)
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Post by Tungus on Dec 6, 2007 2:51:55 GMT -5
I use a 57 with an sennheiser e906 now. Loads better than what I used to have, but then again I can actually have decently somewhat record myself now too. 57's are too presencey too get a good thick tone by themselves I have found. i5's and beta 57's are also alternatives but i've never tried them. I know you weren't asking my opinion, but I'd thought i'd inform you of my changes since I asked you guys about mics and a lot of stuff awhile ago when I joined. Trusty 57 for the win.
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