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Post by noquarter on Feb 16, 2009 12:44:27 GMT -5
hey all,
im in a sort of information predicament and hopefully you guys can help me out.
im currently 21, and have 1 year left on a business degree up here in canada majoring in finance. honestly i chose business cause i knew it would be useful no matter what i did (i didnt know what i wanted to do).
im getting closer to the end of my degree and i know that i have no interest in my field. music has always been such an important part of my life, it seems contradictory to my character to do anything else. music makes me happy.
i think that when i graduate i would like to go back to school to learn how to become a sound engineer or audio engineer etc. basically i want to work in a recording studio.
i know that some of you here have worked/work/ and i think joel even owns a studio?? pardon me if thats way off. anyways. can you guys give me advice at where i can look at for school, what sort of things studios look for, etc etc etc.
any tips advice you can give are massively appreciatred.
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Post by deathsguitarist on Feb 16, 2009 12:53:32 GMT -5
i would recommend just becoming an intern at a studio or something right away. You may be able to find a studio that will take you in and teach you everything. Or find friends that are into recording and have them teach you some stuff.
As far as schools. I honestly think that you don't need to go to school in order to become an engineer. If you just start out on your own and start learning the stuff anyway you can (by friends, etc) you can get your foot in the door. Its all about who you know. School can build up these contacts though.
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Post by noquarter on Feb 16, 2009 13:31:38 GMT -5
my main problem is that i live in lethbridge alberta, which has one recording studio. so until i graduate and move its gonna be hard although ill go talk to them and see if i can do some work there.
i dont want to just move to l.a. or something with no experience on how to use equipment and no education... who would hire me?
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Post by deathsguitarist on Feb 16, 2009 16:09:39 GMT -5
That is true. I think the most experience you will gain will be in the studio. A school can teach you the basics but you have to apply that in a real life setting.
If you want to really work in recording studios be prepared to work long hours (sometimes not getting paid) At least when you first start out.
Those are some things to keep in mind. I would just say go for it. Do everything you can. Jump into as many recording projects you can even if you arent getting paid at first. Just gain the experience anyway you can.
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Post by noquarter on Feb 16, 2009 20:05:46 GMT -5
so is that how all these guys become engineers? i feel like im in that south park underpants gnome episode
step 1. try and get into a studio step 2. ? step 3. profit
hahaha. seriously though. i would love to talk to joel about this sometime. he seems to be making a living doing what i want to do.
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Post by deathsguitarist on Feb 16, 2009 20:34:49 GMT -5
yeah Joel can probably give you better insight into this. But basically you bust your ass until you get good enough to know what you are doing and start making money.
Ive recorded a few bands but I dont have the equipment or time to really get into it.
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Post by noquarter on Feb 16, 2009 20:41:58 GMT -5
my real goal is basically this, and keep in mind im currently a business student and have always been entrepreneurial. i want to hopefully get some sort of certification/ training and studio experience for a few years, accumulate some cash, and then hopefully open my own studio, which would then become my business. i already know lots about business, so making that eventual step wouldnt be hard for me., logistically anyways.
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Post by Tungus on Feb 17, 2009 0:15:19 GMT -5
yeah Joel can probably give you better insight into this. But basically you bust your ass until you get good enough to know what you are doing and start making money. Ive recorded a few bands but I dont have the equipment or time to really get into it. Words to live by. Joel is pro already and Cory went to school for it (before he joined 1 badass band I may add).. I would take both of their opinions as gold...I know em both so I guess Im a lil biased. *shrug. P.S. TURBOFUCKINGTREM!!!!!!!!!
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Post by noquarter on Feb 17, 2009 18:04:36 GMT -5
cool, i dont know who cory is, but ill talk to anyone. is it easier to wait for these guys to post in here, or should i pm?
id love to hear about making a living off it a la joel, but im especially fascinated by the school side.
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Post by Tungus on Feb 17, 2009 19:14:39 GMT -5
cool, i dont know who cory is, but ill talk to anyone. is it easier to wait for these guys to post in here, or should i pm? id love to hear about making a living off it a la joel, but im especially fascinated by the school side. Cory is also known as "deathsguitarist" .
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Post by noquarter on Feb 18, 2009 1:55:06 GMT -5
damn, the guy that went to school says not to go to school... hahaha
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Post by deathsguitarist on Feb 18, 2009 16:23:26 GMT -5
haha. well the reason im saying it is because most people think that... "I went to school to learn how to become a sound engineer now I can go work wherever I want and make lots of money"
I got all good grades in school and I havent been able to get a job as a sound engineer anywhere. Its all about who you know.
I spent all my free time with my band instead of being an intern at studios and all that stuff.
So basically I went to school for it and Im still where I started. I can use pro tools and know how recording works. But that hasnt gotten me very far because I havent been out there doing it.
So basically what Im saying is that you really have to bust your ass out side of school. School will only teach you the tricks, not land you a job.
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Post by Tungus on Feb 18, 2009 19:23:01 GMT -5
I wouldve snagged ya as a second guitarist in a heartbeat....but a better group of musicians beat me to it
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Post by noquarter on Feb 19, 2009 2:10:38 GMT -5
haha. well the reason im saying it is because most people think that... "I went to school to learn how to become a sound engineer now I can go work wherever I want and make lots of money" I got all good grades in school and I havent been able to get a job as a sound engineer anywhere. Its all about who you know. I spent all my free time with my band instead of being an intern at studios and all that stuff. So basically I went to school for it and Im still where I started. I can use pro tools and know how recording works. But that hasnt gotten me very far because I havent been out there doing it. So basically what Im saying is that you really have to bust your ass out side of school. School will only teach you the tricks, not land you a job. interesting, that makes a lot of sense. where did you go to school/live etc and where are you at now?
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Post by deathsguitarist on Feb 20, 2009 12:56:50 GMT -5
I went to school at Madison Media Institute in Madison, WI.
Im living in a really small town about an hour south of Madison at the moment.
Not many audio jobs in WI though. Probably the closest place that would actually have a lot of engineer jobs would be Chicago IL.
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