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Post by thenotshredder on Dec 14, 2007 13:52:07 GMT -5
As the title says. How much should one practice without that tasty crunch, particularly for alternate picking?
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Post by jazziiilite on Dec 14, 2007 16:30:43 GMT -5
Not much. At first you'll notice subtle mistakes and stuff, but a couple hours of serious practice with a clean tone is like a whole day of practice with distortion. You're synchronization will clean up in no time.
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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 14, 2007 16:37:55 GMT -5
When its past midnight i play unplugged, otherwise it's always with overdrive.
practiceing with clean tone makes things more boring anyway
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Post by logansc on Dec 14, 2007 23:29:25 GMT -5
If you ever need to shred on a clean amp then practice that way some, otherwise I don't think so. I do sometimes though, cause I take a jazz class during school and I want to be able to play at the same speed I can with distortion so I can blow this hendrix/vaughn lover kid that he's not as cool as he thinks he is. Nah, really hes really good. But hes the only one in the class whos really way beyond my playing level.
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Post by diego on Dec 15, 2007 8:33:42 GMT -5
As the title says. How much should one practice without that tasty crunch, particularly for alternate picking? You should practice without that tasty crunch every day for at least 2 hours, 36 minutes and 20 seconds.... Lol It depends on what you want to achive... i mean i don`t think that to play clean with distortion you have to practice with a clean sound... Cause playing with distortion or playing without it are 2 different things... To play clean with distortion just make sure you are not making extra noises while playing period... Now i read long time ago that to know how a guitar CAN sound you have to play it unplugged... When you do it it tells you a lot how it will sound plugged in some weird way... Don`t know why but it`s true... Playing without distortion WILL help you for sure to improve your tone!!!... PPP... Diego. Ps. If you want to play well you should get a Yamaha.
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Post by schweinhund on Dec 17, 2007 20:11:21 GMT -5
My answer would be always..
When I practise I ALWAYS practise with clean tone and 99% of the time also unplugged only with the electric guitar ..
When I have fun and just mess around I crank up the megadisortion and wah-wah but sometimes I just play unplugged as I wander round the appartment/watch TV r' sumthin..
"If you can wrap it up with clean tone it will sound BADASS! with drive" My guitar teacher once told me, and boy, was he right!
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Post by Torkin on Dec 18, 2007 12:13:24 GMT -5
Hehehe. But, if you can wrap it up with drive it will sound BADASS! with drive So my point is you should practice it the way you are gonna be playing. That is, if you will never ever use clean tone you shouldn't bother wasting time here, and go pracice with distortion. On the other hand, if you ever will feel the urge to shred on clean channel, you will probably find that the notes you are playing have different volume. I figured out that practicing a bit on clean channel will make your picking and fretting more even and balanced (all notes will have same volume /dynamics), which would allow you to shred like pro on clean channel but i couldn't hear a difference with dist...
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Post by schweinhund on Dec 18, 2007 20:39:00 GMT -5
Disortion smoothens out your mistakes, you sound alot better with gain than without (well most of us at least ) And the basic rule is: Do it good clean and it will sound AWESOME with gain. Now if you practice with gain (like I did in the beginning, always using tons of gain) you'll sound sloppy and bad clean but ok with gain. You are playing it the exacly same way, but some gain is added onto the tone in the final stages (everything between you and the guitar is still exacly the same). The difficult thing is to sound good only with clean tone. If you can do that playing with gain will be like a walk in the park. But here we are mostly talking lead and fast riffs. With clean tone you can HEAR your mistakes and fix them (practice what you need to be practicing ).
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Post by Torkin on Dec 19, 2007 10:11:37 GMT -5
Agreed with ya. But what I said, if you aren't ever gonna play clean then why bother... Just make it sound nice with dist.
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Post by thenotshredder on Dec 19, 2007 10:17:14 GMT -5
Because clean helps you play without any mistakes so there won't be anything to be magnified when you're shredding the fuck up?
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Post by loyct on Dec 21, 2007 1:47:57 GMT -5
Remember that with distortion, you will have to take note of muting the strings that produce unwated sustained notes, especially with sweep patterns.
Thus, practice in clean mode for accuracy, tone, and balance, but also with gain for the actual experience
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Post by ZOMG on Dec 22, 2007 20:30:25 GMT -5
Fuck that , overdriven ALL THE WAY. its wayy better to practice DOS technique ; string skip, sweep, tapping, palm mute (or all of them mixed up together )
clean could be good for subtility, but such thing doesn't exist in TRVE METAL.
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Post by Torkin on Dec 23, 2007 8:27:14 GMT -5
+1
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Post by thenotshredder on Dec 27, 2007 10:20:37 GMT -5
Hey, another metronome question: How long should I work with the metronome on any one lick, and how quickly should I increase the speed? I've been using Lori Linstruth's method and getting good results, but I don't have enough time to practice more than two or three licks an evening like that. Takes me half an hour to forty minutes per lick to get it from 60 to 120 or so. It does help a lot, though.
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Post by Stefvorcide on Dec 27, 2007 10:25:38 GMT -5
When i'm learning a lick, i try to play it a few times AS SLOW AS POSSIBLE without metronome. then, when it's pretty much memorized, i increase speed dramaticly, just to see what happen, sometimes you might easily do it at 140bpm for the first time, sometimes its around 110 sometimes 200 ;p I replay the said lick very slowly again a few times (often a few days in row, it helps alot)
After, when i got some time (and patience ;p ) for the metronome, i start around 100 and go up 10-15 bpm depending of the difficulty. When you're at higher tempo, you might want to go up 4-5 bpm everytimes tho.
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